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WITE AAR - 15km not sound that far?!?
urtelДата: Суббота, 24.11.2012, 15:20 | Сообщение # 31


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11.12.1941, Peno, 1st Shock Army HQ, Commander looking at long column of German vehicle fallowing small snow road up to his position,
5 hours ago he got message from front line units enemy ask for negotiations at high level, he consult STAVKA and got permission to stop battles for 12 hours to see what is going on!
Now column of not less than 15 cars, all with white flags are entering his camp, but he remember stories from start of war off all kind of trick enemy used so he secure HQ with full battalion of soldiers, he will not be tricked!
..15 minutes letter, he is in room with 10 German Generals, some he recognize from images he look some time ago...
FeldMarshal Fedor fon Block commander of Army Group Center:
khm, After complete failure of our invasion forces to crush Soviet resistance, and your succeed to surround main forces of central front, most of 1st and 3rd panzer Army, we leaders of Wehrmacht decide it is pointless to continue war in which we can't win, so we surrender!
GENM Ivan Bagryanov : (more to self)so u think u can win?..(then to them) i m not authorized to talk at this level so you will need to travel to Moscow to deal with that but however i will accept surrender of ur surrounded units right now. Order your troops to lay down weapons and we can continue this conversation in Moscow, or i need to continue mine task of destroying ur forces, we have enough time to escort u back to front before we continue fighting by mine standing orders.
some time pass while translators do they job then German officers have short conversation then..
FeldMarshal Fedor fon Block: I think you not take us seriously enough so i need to show u something, pleas fallow me.
Bagryanov fallow Block outside to one car protected by 2 German soldiers.
Block: look..
Bagryanov carefully look inside car and he easy recognize Hitler siting with binded hands in back sit!
Bagryanov: that is great but i still need u to order your troops to lay weapons
Block: off course i will give that order i m capitulate whole country, so can we now go to Moscow
Bagryanov: In moment i get report from mine troops that your troops are surrender we will get into plain and fly to Moscow
Block: Lead me to your communication room...rest is history smile



Situation at moment of capitulation, 11.12.1941!!!






Сообщение отредактировал urtel - Суббота, 24.11.2012, 15:21
 
urtelДата: Суббота, 24.11.2012, 15:36 | Сообщение # 32


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Для меня лучше был бы сербский язык + translate.google.com , чем английский + translate.google.com Но так как на форуме многие знают английский, то лучше использовать его.


да српски + гогле ће дати бољи превод на руски зато што ми имамо веома сличну граматику те је распоред речи у реченици много бољи него кад преводимо са енглеског на руски..

but as u say many people can read english so i find this best way to do it, i hope no one will be mad because of that..

Anyway AAR is finished and i have no attention to write next one in some time it take HUGE amount of time, more than playing game...
 
urtelДата: Суббота, 24.11.2012, 16:11 | Сообщение # 33


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It was nice game for me, first PBEM ever in any game...i need to admit i m not happy about this German tactic of returning all forces all way to Poland in Blizzard time, ye i m aware that is now modern to do (Peltons way from matrix forums) but i still find it wrong and not giving results on end..
This is not critic of Dimitry style of play we not have house rule against it and he is fine to do it, but i still think it is wrong way..
I learn allot in this game, mostly from way Dimitry use planes to sweep mine fighters and night bomber raids to slow il2 production in last turn i produced just 14 il2 planes ! One more thing i learn is to send some Cav. divs to NW front at turns 5-6 u need them there because there is allot good terrain to cut enemy units and by that slow they advance toward Leningrad, which i fail to do(not so rare in this game) but i m sure i can do better job in next one, i was really at last 2 turns behind in matter of Leningrad defense.

People are obsess to win this game as Germans so they lose big picture, and big picture is u still can have great fun with Germans in summer 42'. U will get allot of replacement in spring 42' and Soviet OOB will be heavy mixed-up so at last in one front u can do big operations, but most German players are not satisfied with that, they want to win and if they not meat goal in 41, they see no point to play next year.

So now i m open for next match ( i will probably not write AAR this one is tired me alot :))

I can play any side, full campaign and now have one house rule

no 1000 km retreats, this go for both sides..
i m really not happy with limiting choices in game but i see no rational explanation for this behavior. I m fine with big retreat to let as say hide troops behind some favorite terrain (Dnepr on example), or to avoid to be cut off or anything like that, but to move troops 1000 km for reason they will be hurt, is wrong from my point of view, it is war troops are there to endure loses and continue fighting.

so contract me on mail or pp so we can start next adventure (do not allow language difference stop u we will find some way to communicate )


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RRR39Дата: Пятница, 12.04.2013, 15:02 | Сообщение # 34


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Перевел бы хоть кто нить что ли.
А то человек старался, а не понять ничего.
 
AlexДата: Пятница, 12.04.2013, 17:14 | Сообщение # 35

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RRR39, AAR очень интересен, там прям художественный фильм в лицах и деталях. Переводить художественный текст будет очень сложной работой. Может быть кто-то и займется этим, а пока всегда можно почитать машинный перевод вот по этой ссылке:

Перевод


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RRR39Дата: Пятница, 12.04.2013, 18:31 | Сообщение # 36


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Читать невозможно.
Подожду, вдруг кто ни будь переведет.
 
lekseus8076Дата: Воскресенье, 14.04.2013, 10:47 | Сообщение # 37


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